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Shari Dragovich's avatar

Thanks, Tracy! I’m so glad you found it helpful. Thanks also for adding your own note-taking process. I love what you track with highlighters. 😊

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Rhea Forney's avatar

I love this post! Note taking is my love language. Through the act of note-taking, I develop a deeper understanding of the text, myself, and the world around me.

For someone who’s never taken notes while reading, it may feel like work in the beginning however once you get the hang of it, it becomes a reward! One that you can look back on often.

I write in my books and in a journal. This may not be for everyone, but I love doing both. I recently started using Shari’s index method, and I love, love, love it!

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Matthew Long's avatar

Great stuff here ladies! I started taking notes a couple years ago and it has been a game changer for me! I do use a pen (Tul medium needle point black) because I like the permanence of it! I underline, write notes in the margins, and then also write notes in my reading journal. I keep a separate commonplace for quotes. My reading journal is indexed by topics/themes, etc...slightly different than your method but accomplishing the same thing. Keep up the great work.

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Shari Dragovich's avatar

Thanks, Matthew. I’ve seen a post where you mention the pens you sue. I’m thinking about ordering some to see if I like them. I love that you want the permanence of your notes. I should be so bold. Maybe 2025 is my year. 😁. I also keep a separate reading journal. Actually, I have a journal specifically for R&W — which tends to be an overall reading journal since most everything I read is possible fodder for R&W essays.

So, I have a question about your reading journal indexing: Do you go through your notebook once it’s full and create your topic index in the front (or back) of it? Or do you index as you go? And then, do you number your pages? I’m super curious about this. It’s a great idea. Right now I use those small post-it tabs and write the topics on the tabs to find particular themes/topics more easily.

Thanks for your membership and encouragement, Matthew. :)

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Matthew Long's avatar

I index as I go. I save some pages at the back and put 2 letters on each page (A/B, C/D, etc...) I do number my pages but I only write on the right hand side so those are the pages I number. The left hand side is left blank for future notes or thoughts when I go back and review or if I want to sketch or anything random. I will take some pics and send so you can see.

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Shari Dragovich's avatar

Yes. If you don’t mind. I would love a visual. Thanks, Matthew!

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Matthew Long's avatar

Sent you a message with photos.

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Judy Warner's avatar

I would like to see them as well.

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Matthew Long's avatar

Sent you a direct message with photos.

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Judy Warner's avatar

How do I find a direct message? It doesn't seem to be in the help--

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Matthew Long's avatar

Judy, if you go to the chat section then you will find direct messages there. I am not sure about the app as I only use the desktop version but all my messages appear in the chat portion of the homepage.

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Shari Dragovich's avatar

Judy, if you are still having trouble finding it and using the app, I would go to the desktop. I'm with Matthew, I rarely use the app to engage on Substack, as I find it much harder to navigate and find everything I need, like the chat function (it looks like a dialogue bubble). It's on the left-hand side of the screen. Hopefully that all helps. :)

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Seher's avatar

For note taking tips, I like Haley Larsen’s Closely Reading. She has an 8-part series on the subject.

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Shari Dragovich's avatar

Thanks for sharing, Seher. I’ll have to look it up. :)

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Judy Warner's avatar

wow, thank you! This is the best article I have read on note taking and I love your suggested questions. I am going to try these suggestions and print out the questions for use when reading. I was an English lit major in college and love to read 19th C novels as well as current non fiction, but no one ever taught us how to read, they just said read and now write your paper. (1960's college)

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Shari Dragovich's avatar

You're welcome, Judy. What a high compliment. Thank you. :) I'm right there with you on never being taught how to read. Everything I've learned has been through the decade I spent homeschooling my own children, and the study of the craft of writing--mostly fiction writing, but non-fiction as well. And all that happened as an adult, NOT when I was in high school or college where you'd think those foundational skills would be taught (!).

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Richard Bush's avatar

Shari, thanks. You gave both practical and helpful advice.

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Shari Dragovich's avatar

Sure thing, Richard. I'm so pleased you found something of use to you. :)

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Richard Bush's avatar

Notice what you notice. This would be a great song in a Broadway musical! I just had to say it.

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Wendy Wright's avatar

This makes so much sense to me & especially when you say that earlier literature is character driven rather than plot driven . This is probably why I enjoy it so much but find it hard to keep track of the many characters. Note making it us from now on. Thank you.

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Sam Granger's avatar

Very thorough write up covering a lot of different angles. There are some similarities to what I do too. One thing that helps me is having a very consistent set of symbols I use in my marginalia, which I’ve written about here: https://armchairnotes.substack.com/p/reflecting-on-books

The other thing is keeping a reading log, which I regularly review. I’ve written about that in a post here: https://armchairnotes.substack.com/p/reviewing-reading-logs-armchair-method

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Shari Dragovich's avatar

Thanks, Sam for this thoughtful and generous response :)

Thanks especially for sharing your own processes. I'm stealing some of your reading log ideas. I especially like your "Montaigne Note" method. I have to think through using a pocket-size notebook. I like your logic for the size though. Makes a lot of sense.

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Jennie's avatar

Thanks Shari! It’s terrific that you picked all these tips up as you homeschooled. Good on you, and thanks for sharing all these great ideas! I learned very little about how to reading closely, or critically, in school. I’ve been an avid reader since I could read ‘Dick and Jane’ books (that ages me!) but now that I’m finally paying closer attention, I find I get more out of it. Finally!

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Shari Dragovich's avatar

Sorry for the latent reply, Jennie. I did see it and appreciate all you've said here.

I'm the same as far as never learning to read closely in school, and that was back when we were still--for the most part, anyway--reading entire books, rather than snippets of a work, which is, (horribly!) sadly how a vast majority of kids are introduced to real literature now.

I do think that our voracious childhood reading habits primed us, however, for learning how to read deeply now. And, yes, homeschooling was a linchpin moment for me in ways I could recognize at the time, but also is the gift that continues to abundantly give itself to me all these many years later. :)

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